tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post4444013274713568051..comments2023-12-11T06:02:28.864-05:00Comments on The Wise Fool: Are You the One?TWFhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-69158534369255075862011-08-10T21:49:26.317-04:002011-08-10T21:49:26.317-04:00While I think that there is enough looseness in th...While I think that there is enough looseness in the text to permit Matthew being present, that is not how it casually reads. Matthew 10:5 says that Jesus sent them out with the following instructions, and those instructions fill up the rest of chapter 10. Then, in Matthew 11:1 we see <br /><br />"After Jesus had finished instructing His twelve disciples, He went on from there to teach and preach in the towns of Galilee." NIV<br /><br />The implication is that Jesus continued on through Galilee without the Apostles.TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-82802973258274673572011-08-10T12:50:17.462-04:002011-08-10T12:50:17.462-04:00For the record, I'm of the opinion that Matthe...For the record, I'm of the opinion that Matthew was present for this conversation. Matthew 10:5 explains that Jesus sent out the twelve apostles--but it doesn't say when, nor does Matthew claim to have arranged his gospel in chronological order. (If indeed the author of Matthew even *was* Matthew the apostle.)<br /><br />Looking forward to your next post about the expectations that everybody had of Jesus.Ollie Wallflowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03300587872476075629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-11585634538047969732011-08-08T22:27:45.710-04:002011-08-08T22:27:45.710-04:00Does it not strike you as odd that everybody expec...Does it not strike you as odd that everybody expected something else? Check out the very next post on this blog for some more insight as to why that may be.<br /><br />In regards to the timeline, I was not really concerned about chronology. My points are these:<br /><br />- If Matthew the Apostle, the supposed source of Gospel by the same name, was out on a mission at the time when John the Baptist sent these messengers, he would know best whether or not he was there. Matthew claims he was not there.<br /><br />- If Luke claims that the Apostles left for their mission later than this episode, then Luke (wrongly) claims that Matthew was with Jesus when John the Baptist sent these messengers.<br /><br />- If no Apostles were there, who is the source for what was said and done, and how is it possible that the wording is nearly identical between both Matthew's and Luke's account?TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-18591576739894649042011-08-08T14:06:34.061-04:002011-08-08T14:06:34.061-04:00I think that John was at first convinced that Jesu...I think that John was at first convinced that Jesus was the Christ (through the urging of the Holy Spirit), but had been expecting him to expel the Gentile oppressors, create a secular kingdom in Judea, and generally kick butt. Essentially all Jews back then expected the Messiah to do these things. No one expected (or wanted) someone who would be arrested and killed without having fixed what they considered to be their #1 problem (oppression). At this point in time Jesus had done none of the above, and as a result John had been languishing in prison for years! It's not surprising to me that he was beginning to have doubts and wanted to be sure that Jesus was indeed the one sent by God and that there would be no one else.<br /><br />You mention that Matthew's account has the Twelve Apostles off on their first mission at this time, yet Luke's account has them leaving later on. As only the gospel of Luke (in 1:3) claims to be in chronological order, I think it's best to use this account if you're wanting a framework for an orderly outline of events. But even in Luke, I don't think that chronology was the most important guiding principal.Ollie Wallflowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03300587872476075629noreply@blogger.com