tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post3497452029037000857..comments2023-12-11T06:02:28.864-05:00Comments on The Wise Fool: Understanding GriefTWFhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-5101103801994762472012-04-28T12:44:26.119-04:002012-04-28T12:44:26.119-04:00As I look back on it all, Sabio, I am not 100% rea...As I look back on it all, <b>Sabio</b>, I am not 100% ready to condemn Mark as being self-contradicting. It certainly seems that way, and (in my opinion) that is probably what prompted Matthew and Luke to take sides, but I could also read into it that Mark's Disciples required some time to absorb Jesus' fate, like so:<br /><br />The Disciples had been brought up with the idea that the Messiah would be the ruler of an earthly kingdom, who permanently re-established Jewish rule in the Promised Land, but had no concept of a Messiah who would die and be resurrected. So at the first mention, perhaps Peter's objection was that what Jesus had said did not match his own concept of the Messiah. Because Jesus' plan was so contrary to their understanding and hopes, their minds could not accept it right away. However, with time, they were able to overcome their own prophesy prejudices, so that at the third recorded telling, they had finally grasped the concept and aligned their faith with Jesus' words enough to start asking about the future beyond His resurrection.<br /><br />If that interpretation is correct, Mark is actually the most honest, most human presentation of the Disciples, inconsistencies and all.TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-37645417805853819352012-04-28T08:51:45.832-04:002012-04-28T08:51:45.832-04:00Interesting, again. I did not know about that stu...Interesting, again. I did not know about that stuff.<br /><br />So if Mark contradicts himself, it looks like he was copying something and wasn't careful as he elaborated.<br /><br />Matthew cleaned up Mark -- or should I say made Mark more kosher.Sabio Lantzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12963476276106907984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-77849838181213558712012-04-27T11:28:34.902-04:002012-04-27T11:28:34.902-04:00Ahab, I think that this confusion would stem from ...<b>Ahab</b>, I think that this confusion would stem from the fact that their Scriptures had defined what the Messiah would do when he appeared, and getting killed, even as a divine offering, was not on the list. If they had been aware of the die-and-rise gods of other contemporaneous religions, they probably would have been more inclined to laugh it off as the foolish beliefs of <i>pagans</i> as opposed to what would come from the one true God. At least that is my guess. ;-)TWFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06016277303703254572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5509207392481380457.post-91379128503594016072012-04-27T10:07:02.247-04:002012-04-27T10:07:02.247-04:00"With Mark, we see the Disciples' confusi..."With Mark, we see the Disciples' confusion, perhaps due to their disbelief that the Messiah would be betrayed and killed."<br /><br />It's strange, because they lived in an era in which religions with die-and-rise gods were common. Maybe they didn't acknowledge the death of a messiah as an analogous idea.Ahabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14675629709031865432noreply@blogger.com